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		<title>By: emsketch</title>
		<link>http://cutroni.com/blog/2007/06/26/understanding-the-google-analytics-terms-of-service/comment-page-1/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>emsketch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If GA does not collect any identifiable information, then why does it collect the email addresses of users who click on a tagged link in an HTML email?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If GA does not collect any identifiable information, then why does it collect the email addresses of users who click on a tagged link in an HTML email?</p>
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		<title>By: emsketch</title>
		<link>http://cutroni.com/blog/2007/06/26/understanding-the-google-analytics-terms-of-service/comment-page-1/#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator>emsketch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

My question is in reference to section 7 of the TOS. It seems as though GA automatically tracks and/or collects user email addresses if you tag links in an HTML email. I found an article that outlines how GA does this. Here is the article:

http://www.campaignmonitor.com/help/topic.aspx?t=112#subscribers

By doing this, is GA violating their own TOS? Or is this dependent upon how the user has configured the tagged links?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>My question is in reference to section 7 of the TOS. It seems as though GA automatically tracks and/or collects user email addresses if you tag links in an HTML email. I found an article that outlines how GA does this. Here is the article:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.campaignmonitor.com/help/topic.aspx?t=112#subscribers" rel="nofollow">http://www.campaignmonitor.com/help/topic.aspx?t=112#subscribers</a></p>
<p>By doing this, is GA violating their own TOS? Or is this dependent upon how the user has configured the tagged links?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://cutroni.com/blog/2007/06/26/understanding-the-google-analytics-terms-of-service/comment-page-1/#comment-929</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>June,

What a great idea!  I&#039;m going to start doing the same thing with our clients.

Thanks for sharing.

Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>June,</p>
<p>What a great idea!  I&#8217;m going to start doing the same thing with our clients.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing.</p>
<p>Justin</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
		<link>http://cutroni.com/blog/2007/06/26/understanding-the-google-analytics-terms-of-service/comment-page-1/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Justin.

For any GA accounts we set up for clients (in their name), we PDF the TOS at time of account setup and send it to the client, stressing that the GA account is their account and they have to agree and accept the TOS by using the GA script on their website.  If they have any problems with the TOS, these issues need to be addressed ASAP before work proceeds to add the script, create profiles, filters, etc.

Aside from the privacy policy, organizations need to pay attention to section 8, Indemnification.  This clause may cause angst with some legal departments.

Process, process, process :)

Cheers,

June</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Justin.</p>
<p>For any GA accounts we set up for clients (in their name), we PDF the TOS at time of account setup and send it to the client, stressing that the GA account is their account and they have to agree and accept the TOS by using the GA script on their website.  If they have any problems with the TOS, these issues need to be addressed ASAP before work proceeds to add the script, create profiles, filters, etc.</p>
<p>Aside from the privacy policy, organizations need to pay attention to section 8, Indemnification.  This clause may cause angst with some legal departments.</p>
<p>Process, process, process :)</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>June</p>
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		<title>By: ML</title>
		<link>http://cutroni.com/blog/2007/06/26/understanding-the-google-analytics-terms-of-service/comment-page-1/#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>ML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that&#039;s a heck of a last sentence to leave things on.  Here&#039;s why: assume I&#039;m using GA data to track offline conversions.  Using custom code, GA cookie data is retrieved and submitted with the form data that drives the offline purchasing process.  I&#039;m doing this because I have a natural motivation to track what keywords and clickstream profiles are resulting in the most--and most profitable--conversions.

Problem is, the form data submitted to the offline conversion engine of course contains all sorts of personally identifiable information.  Users know full well that they&#039;re entering and submitting this information, and the whole process is voluntary; nevertheless, it is PII.  Is there no way to then to use GA to marry keyword and clickstream data to individual transactions if the conversion takes place elsewhere?  If the conversion process were entirely online, I&#039;d be using the same data in the same way to the same end, but since GA would strip all PII, I&#039;d never come into conflict with the TOS.  The further irony is that I couldn&#039;t care less about marrying clickstream data with individual identities--the only thing important to me is transactions--but identities are all that link the visitor who submits that form to the sale that takes place later, offline.  I don&#039;t want to wind up stuck just because my data could technically be reorganized to  document clickstream data identity by identity.

The business for which this data is being collected sells products that amount to enormous capital investments.  Transactions of this magnitude aren&#039;t typically executed online, though they frequently start there.  Am I right in perceving that the GA terms of service might rule out using the GA cookies to feed offline conversion tracking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that&#8217;s a heck of a last sentence to leave things on.  Here&#8217;s why: assume I&#8217;m using GA data to track offline conversions.  Using custom code, GA cookie data is retrieved and submitted with the form data that drives the offline purchasing process.  I&#8217;m doing this because I have a natural motivation to track what keywords and clickstream profiles are resulting in the most&#8211;and most profitable&#8211;conversions.</p>
<p>Problem is, the form data submitted to the offline conversion engine of course contains all sorts of personally identifiable information.  Users know full well that they&#8217;re entering and submitting this information, and the whole process is voluntary; nevertheless, it is PII.  Is there no way to then to use GA to marry keyword and clickstream data to individual transactions if the conversion takes place elsewhere?  If the conversion process were entirely online, I&#8217;d be using the same data in the same way to the same end, but since GA would strip all PII, I&#8217;d never come into conflict with the TOS.  The further irony is that I couldn&#8217;t care less about marrying clickstream data with individual identities&#8211;the only thing important to me is transactions&#8211;but identities are all that link the visitor who submits that form to the sale that takes place later, offline.  I don&#8217;t want to wind up stuck just because my data could technically be reorganized to  document clickstream data identity by identity.</p>
<p>The business for which this data is being collected sells products that amount to enormous capital investments.  Transactions of this magnitude aren&#8217;t typically executed online, though they frequently start there.  Am I right in perceving that the GA terms of service might rule out using the GA cookies to feed offline conversion tracking?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://cutroni.com/blog/2007/06/26/understanding-the-google-analytics-terms-of-service/comment-page-1/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jacques,

You make a great point.  Many of the smaller/mid-size companies that we work with do not have a PP.

As for enforcement, I&#039;m not sure who&#039;s responsibility that is.  I know that, as a GAAC, we always advice our clients to follow the GA TOS.  We can&#039;t make them do that, but most do follow our advice.  I think it makes sense for Google to enforce the policy in the future as GA is their product.

Thanks for adding to the discussion,

Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jacques,</p>
<p>You make a great point.  Many of the smaller/mid-size companies that we work with do not have a PP.</p>
<p>As for enforcement, I&#8217;m not sure who&#8217;s responsibility that is.  I know that, as a GAAC, we always advice our clients to follow the GA TOS.  We can&#8217;t make them do that, but most do follow our advice.  I think it makes sense for Google to enforce the policy in the future as GA is their product.</p>
<p>Thanks for adding to the discussion,</p>
<p>Justin</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Warren</title>
		<link>http://cutroni.com/blog/2007/06/26/understanding-the-google-analytics-terms-of-service/comment-page-1/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With GA being free and widely implemented (not always with the planning and care a paid solution would tend to bring), I would suggest that most sites haven&#039;t taken the pain of defining a PP, or modified it to include the part about the cookies and stats.

But then again, who is going to enforce it? Google? The GAACs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With GA being free and widely implemented (not always with the planning and care a paid solution would tend to bring), I would suggest that most sites haven&#8217;t taken the pain of defining a PP, or modified it to include the part about the cookies and stats.</p>
<p>But then again, who is going to enforce it? Google? The GAACs?</p>
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